Hello, fellow aroid lovers.
When I first joined DG, I tried to find a long-lost (stolen 25 years ago from my apartment) philodendron via a post, but the aroid world is huge; it's nearly an impossible task.
My stolen philo was 100% medium-green from leaf to stem, no veining/texture. The stems were upright but needed support once the plant began to grow in size, sending out long arial roots in an effort to climb something. The leaves were semi-elongated hearts, not super long, about 6" or so. On the same plant one could find slight variations in size/shape of these spade-shaped, semi-glossy leaves.
Can anyone post a pic or two if you believe you have what I have described ... and if some generous soul could send me a few cuttings, I would gladly pay shipping.
Or if anyone has philodendron cuttings of a similar plant in a dark, high-gloss version, I would be happy to pay shipping as well. The darker the better--like black knight! Wow!
Want cuttings; I miss my stolen philodendron
I have a small spade leaf philo if that's what you mean
I have this one, but a friend in Florida wanted it so I just kept a small piece of it and that is blooming now but smaller.If you would like it, pay postage and you can have it, I'm not real good with house plants, and it is in the greenhouse.
Oh WOW!!!!! timmijo if you don't take her up on it I will! I definately do NOT have one like that! That is spectacular!
the small little spade leaf philo I have like 8 of, none of them that big that's for sure
I appreciate the replies so far, but the philodendron I lost had thick, sturdy (upright) stems--each stem 6-8" long, ending in a 6" long leaf. This was a houseplant. It probably gets bigger outdoors. Trina, are you offering me heart-leaf philodendron (with little curly stems and little green hearts)? Thanks, but I want a different plant. Pictures would be helpful.
Mekos, thanks, but perhaps Trina would like the philo. It's not that I'm being ungrateful .... I just want my original plant back. Or as close to it as I can find.
Pretty anthurium... I would love a division off of it, too. I seem to be collecting anthuriums (among other things)
Timmijo, look through these pics when ya have time. If you can locate yours in here, you can get a name and stand a much better chance of someone having your plant and sharing.
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&um=1&q=philodendron+species&sa=N&start=0&ndsp=18
This message was edited Dec 4, 2009 8:33 AM
I have spade leaf philo medium green upright spade shaped leaves, not glossy. Will have to take pictures of it for you later when I find what the 19 yo did with the camera
I don't have a heart leaf philo
Hi again.
I looked at a lot of google images, thanks to themoonhowl. I ended up coming back here; the closest plant here on DG seems to be this image by giancarlo .... http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/151035/.
His pic shows a plant a bit more glossy than mine was, and leaves a bit longer/narrower, but if anyone has cuttings of this glossy Philodendron eximium, I'll take some.
I also think it could be Philodendron frits-wenti. There are only two images on here of that one, also from giancarlo, I believe. This one is less glossy but basically the same type of plant.
Anyone have frits-wenti or glossy eximium to share?
Thanks, TJ
I have one I just got that looks exactly like that, but it only says "green plant" on the tag
Here is the link to giancarlo's Philodendron frits-wenti. Less glossy and basic. I love it.
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/147051/.
Anyone have some?
Here is the picture of mine I took tonight. It is dusty being in the greenhouse and not as big as it was before I split it up for mu friend.
and you said you weren't good with houseplants mekos!
No my house doesn't have the right kind of light and where it does have windows is the hottest of the sun so those windows are closed to keep out the heat and sun so no where to keep house plants. They go outside to the pond area and slugs get them then to the greenhouse for winter. If I bring them inside, they die on me. Not much good in the greenhouse where no one can see them.
Hey, mekos.
I have a similar situation: I have south-facing windows that are best for cacti and succulents only--the desert plants--everything else gets too cooked in that window.
Have you thought about putting some of your houseplants indoors under fluorescent lighting? It doesn't have to be expensive. You could use a shop light. Philodendrons would love it since they don't like a lot of light.
Maybe the plants die due to other factors. I'm sure you've got a green thumb.
my problem is I have huge picture windows that face the east, but I can't put any plants upstairs to use those windows because those are the kids bedrooms and they never remember to open the blinds and it's too cold up tere for my tropicals, so everythings crammed in the dinning room, hallway and the master bedroom, but then again with this many plants everythings always crammed but I love it!
A sheer curtain or blinds would allow light, without scorching. I only have houseplants for the winter, the rest of the year, I have porch plants, lol.
Well, I guess it would be better to say I don't have enough space to keep them where they would get good light and so greenhouse is best solution.
If he'd hurry up and finish the greenhouse I'd have room, or at least I thought I would until he decided he wants to put a fireplace and the hot tub in it!
Oh my goodness. He just took your greenhouse did he?!? LOL
Mine is FULL so if he were to try to take over mine, I'd just move them all inside and he wouldn't have room to sit so he wouldn't even think about that. You can barely move around in mine. I have hundreds of plants in there that are tropical and can't live outside here in the winter.
thats just it I covered every flat surface with plants or seed starting trays, including laying plywood over the couch and then covering that with plants because he said it would be done before summer was over...there's 1500 pots of plants in here! We have 5 teenagers with no place to sit down! he said it would be done so I ordered the tropical seeds I wanted, unfortunately those seeds don't store real well so I had to get them started!
ok here's the first one, it would be some cuttings TJ
Hehehehehehahahaha LOL I'm rolling in the floor! Put a flower pot at his place at the table. More on the stove so you can't cook and he'll have to take you out to eat all the time and eventually he will finish it. Fill the bath tub with water plants and the garage.
Now I remember reading about this in another thread. I just couldn't remember who that was. Still laughing.
and then this is the spade leaf philo, and it would be probably this one here potted up
garage is not heated, and I have blocked the coffee pot and the stove and most of the kitchen cabinets now...LOL and his favorite chair
i have philo 'Burle Marx'
Good luck on your quest, timmijo. I know that giancarlo, actual name was Armando, would help you out, but he passed away last year. He was a generous man and there are several of his plants in my yard. Such a lovely remembrance of a very kind gentleman. He is sorrily missed.
Hap
Timmijo, I will gladly try to help with a cutting if possible. We have close to 100 species (out of a possible 1000 found in nature) in our collection but there are some things you should consider.
Philodendron, and virtually all aroids, are highly variable. They change shape almost constantly as they grow due to both ontogeny, the natural change in the growth of any living organism. The leaves on a single plant can also be variable so it is easily possible to find a bunch of different leaf shapes on the same plant. Aroids are also highly variable and take on many different forms in the wild as well as in collections. Philodendron hederaceum is so variable it likely has 1000 or more natural leaf shapes in the wild. It is so variable people often own a Philodendron scandens, a Philodendron micans, a Philodendron miduhoi, a Philodendron oxycardium and a Philodendron 'Brasil' without ever realizing they are all the same scientific species. They are same species but one that has many different "faces". Just because one is red on the bottom or has a velvet leaf on the top does not mean it is a different species.
Although not all our plants are on the internet, I believe we have around 70 species on our website so start here:
http://www.exoticrainforest.com/plantscollection.html
Look through the pages and see if you can find one that is similar. If I have it, and I can cut it, you got it. I have to tell you some of these plants are very rare and I can't cut them until they produce an inflorescence.
There are other photos here along with an explanation why one species does not always appear the same:
http://www.exoticrainforest.com/Natural%20variation%20within%20aroid%20and%20%20plant%20species.html
And finally, others are here along with info on how they grow in the wild:
http://www.exoticrainforest.com/Grow%20or%20Growing%20Philodendrons.html
Some of the references you've given are common names and I am worthless with those. I collect plants only by their species' name but I also have good contacts and may be able to find you a cutting. In fact, we will be in the research greenhouse at the Missouri Botanical Garden in St. Louis in just a few weeks (April 24, 2010) for a meeting of the International Aroid Society and if you can come up with a good photo or name by then I might be able to find one from one of the other attendees.
There are other possibilities to consider.
Your plant could easily have been a hybrid and if so it may no longer be available. Hybridized plants come and go in popularity and there are many plants that were popular in the 1960's and 1970's that are no longer produced. In fact, your plant sounds something like a form of Philodendron erubescens or Philodendron domesticum. At one time P. domesticum was called "Philodendron hastatum" (a common name, not a scientific name) There are many forms of this plant and some now call it "imbe". The true Philodendron hastatum is a completely different plant than the one people now know as Philodendron domesticum.
Another possibility is your plant was not a Philodendron but instead an Asian or Central/South American species that looks like a Philodendron.
There are tons more of those that fall into at least 7 or 8 different genera. Some of those are sold as Monstera species when in fact they are only vaguely related. When in the juvenile stage these plants look very much like a Philodendron but as they morph they take on a completely different shape eventually developing holes in the leaves or lobes along the edge of the leaf blade.
The plant could also have been a true Monstera (found only in Central and South America) but again it would have been a juvenile that had yet to morph. Try looking through photos of Rhaphidophora, Epipremnum as well as Monstera species.
If you will be anywhere near St. Louis on the 24th of April I'll gladly take you through the research greenhouse at MOBOT to see if we can find the plant there. Chances are we won't be able to get a cutting but if we know what we're hoping to find at least you've got a good name.
Another great source for photos with good names is the International Aroid Society website: www.Aroid.org
Steve
www.ExoticRainforest.com
This message was edited Apr 7, 2010 11:34 AM
Wow! Steve! Awesome!
I do believe my Philodendron was referred to as "hastatum" back when I had it. According to your note here, that would best be called Philodendron domesticum.
Thank you for your offer to try to find me a cutting! I will get to work on finding images that resemble my long-lost Philodendron. Unfortunately, I cannot travel to St. Louis, but thanks for your kindness.
You make a great point: Plants that were popular in the 60's and 70's are no longer produced. That is exactly why I want it. My dear friend Pat Howell, who passed away several years ago, was the one who got me started with this philo and who taught me about propagation. To have my philo back would be to have a memento of that dear lady.
I will start by looking at all your links here. Thanks again. I'll come back here with the image information unless there is a better avenue.
wow, Steve.
You are a wealth of info. Thanks.
Hap
Glad to help. You should read this entire post on Philodendron domesticum since the plant could have also been the true Philodendron hastatum: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1085476/
The true Philodendron hastatum has a blue green blade. http://www.exoticrainforest.com/Philodendron%20hastatum%20pc.html
This is an extremely variable aroid and can take on several different leaf shapes. Just look at the drawing in the upper right of the page link above and look at the photos of the semi-adult and juvenile leaves. Lots of folks have a hard time understanding natural variation.
If it is Philodendron domesticum all I have is the variegated form which is often called Philodendron imbe. I don't think I have a photo of that plant on my site but if you look it up and find it is likely your plant I'll take a photo for you. A cutting of that one is no problem at all.
I can only give reasonably good information since I've had a bunch of people do the same for me in the past. I just enjoy trying to help others understand their plants!
Steve
This message was edited Apr 8, 2010 8:05 PM
Hello again to Steve and everyone else who likes aroids.
Steve, I missed my window of time for the International Aroid Society meeting a few days ago--I have three kids about to graduate and can't stay current with my other passions--but I will surely come up with a photo of my missing philodendron by summertime.
Thanks again.
~TJ ("timmijo")
Too bad you couldn't make it. The meeting was a great success with attendees from as far away as Virginia, Arizona, French Guiana, Illinois, Arkansas, Oklahoma and a variety of other states. Dr. Croat gave away some incredible plants that were collected in the wild and cultivated in the Missouri Botanical Garden greenhouse.
We'll do another one in about three or four months.
Steve
I'm just lurking, but Steve, your response was amazing. What a thoughtful and generous gesture. I only have a couple of standard houseplants, but it sounds so exciting that I'd try to take you up on the offer if I lived anywhere near there.
Kathy