Id on my new plant

Fridley, MN(Zone 4b)

Just bought this at Home Depot and no Id

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Fridley, MN(Zone 4b)

Here is the pic

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Canton,IL &Dent Coun, MO(Zone 5b)

looks like a Philodendron Brasil, but I am not an expert by any means, I just happen to have a couple of them, one I also got at the nursery but they labeled it an ivy

Fridley, MN(Zone 4b)

Thanks Trina, I thought so, but had only seen pictures.

Canton,IL &Dent Coun, MO(Zone 5b)

your welcome any time, I grow lots of stuff but don't know most of thier names must work off pictures to know anything...LOL

Siloam Springs, AR

Philodendron Brasil is a cultivar of Philodendron hederaceum. the name "Brasil" is not a scientific name but instead a commercial name.

P. hederaceum is one of the most variable of all aroids and takes on many "faces" with very different colors and leaf textures. Some have velutinous (velvety) upper blade surfaces while others such as "Brasil" do not. The colors of "Brasil" change as it grows and in a few years it will loose the mixed colors and change to be very much like a plant commonly known as Philodendron miduhoi. P. miduhoi, P. micans, P. scandens, P. oxycardium and many other plants are simply synonyms of Philodendron hederaceum.

Since Philodendron hederaceum was first correctly described and published scientific name that appeared in a scientific journal before all the other names it becomes the accepted name while the later named plants become synonyms.

These are the dates each was described : Philodendron hederaceum (Jacq.) Schott (1829), Synonyms: Philodendron scandens (1853), Philodendron micans (1854), Philodendron cuspidatum, (1854), Philodendron oxycardium (1856), Philodendron acrocardium (1858), Philodendron microphyllum (1854), Philodendron hoffmannii (1858), Philodendron pittieri (1899), Philodendron miduhoi (1950). Each produces the same inflorescence and the characteristics of the plant (stem, cataphyll, nodes, internodes, etc) are the same. Many aroids are highly variable and just because the leaves don't look alike does not indicate a different species although in the 1800's that fact was not well understood.

Variation is a very confusing subject, especially to collectors. This link explains in as simple terms as possible why plants don't have to look alike to be the same species. The page includes the confusion over Philodendron hederaceum and is explained here with photos:

http://www.exoticrainforest.com/Natural%20variation%20within%20aroid%20and%20%20plant%20species.html

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Keaau, HI

Great explanation and history Steve!

I learn something every time you post a comment.

We have many roadside Aroids here; it is good to get them sorted out.

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I agree with Dave as well Steve! I sure have learned alot from you and I hope to learn alot more.

Siloam Springs, AR

Always a pleasure to try to help. I realize this subject can be difficult for a collector that hasn't had any training to immediately grasp but variation is so common the chances are very high every collector on this forum has the same species tagged with more than one name.

If anyone has a chance to make it to the IAS meeting in S. Louis on April 24th I promise we'll be talking about this subject. Rachel has a post on this forum with the details and you don't have to join the IAS to come to the meeting!

Steve

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