Here are a couple of Ebay auctions using my pix without permission.Use caution if you are a bidder.If a person doesn't have his/her own picture,then you don't really know what you are getting.
This person even left the DG copyright in the upper left corner.
csjenkins1
180421998913
180422357723
Another unauthorized picture use
Have you email this seller or reported it to ebay?
This listing 180422330320 has A.Harris on it. Which means they have used her pic as well.
The seller claims that all proceeds will be donated to an animal shelter, but should have ask before using pics that do not belong to them. Takes away my trust!!!
Janice
Yes,I have notified the seller and Ebay.In this case the seller can't even claim ignorance since the copyright is right there.The ironic thing is that I always give permission to use my pix for anything other than commercial use.Says so right on the home page of my website.
There seems to be more stealing of all pictures from the Plant Files as it is happening alot in the iris I know.
We have contacted both the seller and ebay and get no help at all.
One even links direct to her webpage which we all know is forbidden and that has been reported too many times to count any more.
Sorry this is going on, as I know I will not post any pictures any longer to plant files because of this problem.
If they asked 90% would get an OK from me, but not to ask is unforgiveable.
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JT
I hate to hear that, you have such georgeous Pic's, it's just not right to do that, they probably don't know what they have
that's why they're stealing Pic's, you send such wonderful plants, who needs ebay, IMHO
Elizabeth
I don't lose sleep over this.It's just something that needs to be stopped when we see it.
There are really two kinds of incorrect picture usage.All of us who have been doing this for a few years have a lot of others pictures on our hard drives.It would be easy to pick up one of these by mistake but that obviously isn't the case here.
7servant7 strikes again.This time it's auction # 160371752204.He is using the same picture of Flamenco that csjenkins is using.I also noticed a couple of other auctions for Flamenco where the picture looks nothing like Flamenco.Not my pix in those cases though.
Did you ever get a reply from csjenkins or ebay?
Janice
too funny, I will have to go look for this one.
Janice
This is the first reply...just a stall.
"What photos are you referring to? I have had volunteers helping out with the auctions as I have been overwhelmed with rescue issues. I will look into this, I do not know how or why they used other photos as they were given photos from my garden."
- csjenkins1
The second reply said that since the auction had bids,it couldn't be edited.True,but an auction can always be ended by the seller.
This whole thing was just a stall until the auction ended.Pity the poor souls who bid 10 bucks on these cuttings.Can you say noid?
I have followed up with Ebay but their system is unweildy and time consuming.We will see how they follow up.
No reply yet from 7S7
This gives me pause. I will be alarmed to buy brug seeds off ebay now. First of all, I have heard that brugs do not produce true from seeds, but no bid I have ever looked at has ever notified the buyer of this information. I did just buy some brug seeds from an ebay seller but I only paid a couple of bucks for them and I have bought seeds before from this seller with no problem. I purchased the seeds with fully knowing that the seed may vary from the parent but I was mostly interested in the fact the brug is yellow, a color I don't have. I won't buy a plant off ebay now. I will look to my fellow daves garden members if I wish to acquire a new brug. I never realized these ebay sellers were stealing pictures from garden members.
Bubba,don't give up on Ebay.There are some excellent sellers there.The trick is to know your seller.If you aren't sure,ask here and someone will give you an answer.
For that matter,I'm watching a couple of auctions right now.If the price stays right I may add a couple to my collection.There are three rules
Know the seller
know the seller
and know the seller.
Oh my JT. I bet you are watching the same ones I am watching. LOL
Good luck
Janice
Bubba, you can also check out DG market place for brugs. Our DG members have some nice ones for sale there.
Janice
when I sold on E-bay.. I ALWAYS put my name across the center of my pic....
I edited it in my photo shop....I would show you but I have been told that "I'm promoting my business" so sorry
I did explain it on an Australia form once...before I was corrected...
Jody
contact dave's. if they took the pictures from here, terri can VERO the seller and have the auctions removed and the seller gets a black mark on their account.
i second Dee. it's just getting out of hand. seems someone put the word out 'make lots of $$$$ by selling your generic plants with borrowed/stolen pictures'.
what's wrong with people? are they leaving their ethics and honesty under the covers when they get out of bed in the morning?
Any member of Dave's who have their photos stolen from Plant Files should contact Daves. I have been in touch with Terry regarding iris photos used on Ebay. She want to know and can legally have them removed. Be sure to give the link to your photo, plus the link to the Ebay listing. Terry will take it from there.
I agree that if a seller don't use their own photos, I would really wonder if they actually have the plant they are selling. I doubt they do. By the time the plant blooms, it is past the 90 days to leave a negative feedback.
Photo theft is the main reason I won't post mine on Plant Files. I work too hard to get the perfect photo, in both effort and time. When I use my photos on Ebay, I always put my copyright notice where it would be difficult to remove it. On an iris, that would be on the falls.
Many sellers on Ebay don't know the difference between a Brug and a Datura. I saw one seller who had a listing of a Brug and called it a Datura. Geeze!
also beware of those selling in Canada claiming they ship to the US without Phyto certificates. That's not legal.
I do ebay but not plants but all my photographhs are watermarked. I had one incident few years back where my pix and description was copied so I emailed the seller and reported her. The listing was gone in matter of minutes. This was before I watermarked.
JT, did you ever get a response from ebay?
Just being nosey!!!
Janice
I'm not sure the assumption that a person doesn't have the plant they are selling because they use someone else's picture. Maybe they don't have a digital camera or are technologically inept.
The second you put your photos on the net, you might as well kiss them goodbye because you lose all control over them.
I have purchased lots of brug seeds and plants off Ebay from known good sellers.
Peonycapri is not me, and she has been contacted many times about that yellow frilled brugmansia seed she is selling.
The maketplace, no matter where you are is "buyer beware".
JaniceKay,
I did get a response from Ebay but not one that was very helpful.I was advised to use their VERO program,which I could not do because ,in this case,the photos are actually copyrighted by Daves Garden.The next time this happens I will go through Daves.
Blomma,I agree.The buyer is very unlikely to get what they paid for.One ironic thing I noticed;this buyer could have bought the actual plant for less than they paid for cuttings.
I guess it's time to start watermarking my photos.
We don't copyright your photos, gone2seed--you are the copyright holder. You may have put a watermark on them when you uploaded them here, but it's your watermark ;o)
Hi Terry,
I guess I misunderstood.I did not watermark mine and assumed the copyright notice at the top left was Dave's copyright.
Nope...we only have a non-exclusive license to display your photos you post here; we can't and wouldn't try to assert any sort of copyrights to them.