Hello everyone,
Got the first bloom today on my P. cincinnata. This is a first year plant grown from seed (from Brazil). It has the same size and fragrance as P. Incense, but different coloring. I have 2 different vines, each with buds, so I may get some seeds if they have time to ripen.
Mark
Here's a close-up of the filaments in the center:
it sure is pretty mark...I got a Blue Eyed Susan just a few weeks ago and was very happy with the bloom color on it
Here's the second one:
Another view:
Gorgeous Mark!
Carolyn
totally drooling all over my keyboard!
absolutely beautiful!
gordo,
I like yours better than mine! Do you sell or trade?
Mark
I sell, but mostly seed, seed crosses and plants when available. I don't keep an ongoing supply of rooted cuttings of all the plants we have as I don't have enough room. I try to rotate plants for availability, so it's a matter of watching the ebay site and various other places where I tend to pop up. :-)
I also have a website the link to which is accessible through my profile.
Mark,
Wow !! Guess I'll have to wait till next spring for my "babies" to bloom !
I have a dumb question...do you have to prune these things? I grow mine in the house and was just wondering
so in the spring then?
cool thank you! this is my first year with passies andI love them! But being that I am a much cooler climate I need to either treat them as annuals or as houseplants...so I chose houseplants
Got the first 2 flowers on my second cincinnata vine. The buds are more pointy than vine #1, and the filaments have that angular contortion to them. Should know in a few days if they can successfully pollenate each other. Here's a pic--the flower got drenched with over an inch of rain just before I took the pic.
Mark
The second one which opened today has more "curve" to the filaments, but it is still noticeably different from the first vine.
wow....twitterpated!
I like #2 better, I could write poetry for that thing. I'm impressed and I don't impress easily.
Thanks y'all. This passie impresses me too! I can't wait until next spring when it puts out many blooms in a day like my Incense vine. One interesting thing--the colors in the pics are accurate. Some of the flowers have the magenta color to the center, while others are more purple. I still have not successfully pollenated it--the vines may be too genetically similar. Still trying though.
Mark
Do they make a book on (or two) On passies so I don't keep asking you guys the same stupid questions all over again?
Hi Trinawitch,
I just got mine last week. "Passiflora: Passionflowers of the World". An encyclopedia of passiflora with about 300 color pictures, and lots of text. A very big book. It's rather steep if you buy it new, I buy my books used, (being retired), from Abe books. I know it's traitorous of me not to go through Dave's but there it is. Abe books has one now for $22.10. New is $44.00.
Cheaper still is to join the Passiflora Society International, they will send you their newsletters which are magazines. The one for spring, which I received for joining about 2 weeks ago, has an identification table to identify many many Passiflora by the 32 different types of nectar glands on the petiole. (the stem). Look at your Passiflora stems and you will see little bumbs. Where they are and how they are shaped will tell you a lot about the plant. I'm sure it isn't definitive however, it's just another tool to help identify these marvelous plants. I've run across quite a bit of incorrectly identified Passiflora and I'm fairly new at this, but I study. You can also buy a packet of seed for $1.00 if a member.
Try the Grassy Knoll exotic plant site, the lady is the Webmaster for the Passiflora Society International, and she has a lot of Passiflora, with the correct parents of cultivars.
Thomas
"First God mad idiots, but that was just for practice, then he made School Boards. Mark Twain.
Awesome PoetinWood! and I love the quote at the bottom...do you have the address for the Passiflora society? I didn't even know there was one...shows how little I know
and no its not a crime to go through a cheaper source, I am in forced retirement due to health issues, and I have 5 teenagers, so I am all for going the cheaper route whenever possible
LouisianaMark,
I just came across some info on pollination you might be interested in: It was for P. mollissima, but might help you: use pollen from a flower opened for 12 hours on a newly opened flower before midday. If this works, can I get a few seed? I adore that plant.
Check out the one at Grassy Knoll, it is labeled Passiflora cincinnata, on page 7 of the Passiflora. It doesn't even look like the same plant. Could I ask where you got your particular strain?
Trinawitch:
here is the address:
http://passiflora.org/
You might want to check out the seed bank first, just to make sure it is something you may want to grow. Me? I'll grow anything.
Thomas
All things are possible,
most, however, are not. (Me)
seed bank?
Hi Thomas,
I got my seed from Mauro Peixoto (www.brazilplants.com). It comes from the Bahia province/state in Brazil. P cincinnata is supposed to have a very variable flower across its range (which is large). The leaves are very distinctive though. My seeds probably have the same mother plant, and probably the same pollen donor. So that would make them genetically very similar, and probably not able to pollinate one another. I am trying bud pollination at different times from bud opening to see if that works. I am also trading cincinnatas with someone who has the one from Grassy Knolls, so hopefully those will be able to pollinate one another. But I am not sure where the Grassy Knolls clone comes from.
Mark
Thomas,
I just checked the photo on Grassy Knolls. It is the same plant, just bad lighting on the photo. It was taken in direct sunlight with shade to the right. Direct sunlight can be a very harsh light to photograph in. I would have shaded the flower before I took the pic. The photo was from Mark Stratton--he's the guy who runs the seed bank for the Passiflora society. I don't know where he got his plant from, or if Elizabeth has the same plant. If you look on the Gardenweb website, you will see a pic of the cincinnata flower from Grassy Knolls (along with the ones I posted here). I think Elizabeth sometimes has and sells plants which have not bloomed for her (she's probably taking cuttings before they get a chance), so she gets photos from various sources, though I am not certain of this. Sorry for the run-on sentence.
Mark
Run on?, Shouldn't apologize for that one as all the classic Victoria era novels were nothing but run ons. And besides, you're chatting with someone who loves double negatives.
Thanks for clearing this up for me. I am completely enamored with that P. cincinnata that you have, so I'll get one from the Grassy Knoll to see how it does. After this will be the quest for the P. incarnata 'alba'. I may have to drive to Arkansas to find one though.
I suspect that Elizabeth might tell you the origin of their specimen. Surely she is scientifically oriented, given her association with P. Society International.
Poetinwood,
I received some seeds of P. incarnat "alba" from another Dg'er (maybe she'll chime in) and just sowed them. Now ---my luck w/ passi seeds has not been wonderful. But did finally get some seeds of a "mini" ? passi in another seed trade and low and behold one has sprouted for me. Both sets of seeds are fresh, and the temps are perfect so with luck the incarnata alba's will sprout. If so, and I get lucky to get a few I can send you a seedling.
mj
MJ,
You got a smaller seed from me also..maybe that's the mini you are thinking of..from seeds that I planted..gave all away except one plant of incarnata alba and it wasn't happy where I had it or it had never bloomed..I moved it in full sun by my pond this spring and had first flowers..it started to bud and got sooo excited..when it opened iit had a touch of lavender..pretty, but I wanted pure white..is this something common with seed...anybody that knows.
Carolyn, the mini passi seed I got was from a group swap. I've only sown the incarnata alba you sent me the other day.
I do think from seed you can get alot of variables in bloom. We'll just have to wait and see.
I did send you the morifolia, didn't I..it has a small bloom..anxious to see what the mini passi is.
I did get a small cincinnata fruit, but it seems to have stopped growing, so I don't know if it will make it.
Mark
