Is there a way to tell, or a place that tells, which Hoyas are Eriostemmas?
Eriostemmas
DLs catalogue lists them at the end. Any particular one in mind...I kinda know them.
Yes Carol, I would like to know how to tell the difference, like if I lost the tag or something. Take guppyii for example, how would you know that it is an eriostemma and not.
Thanks,
Dee
I've got most of my Hoyas in for the winter. I know the Eriostemmas need to be kept warm...would like to put those (if I have any ^_^) away from my cold windows if possible. How do I know if I have any?
Oh, and here I thought the Eriostemmas liked cooler temp's! It's all so confusing to me sometimes, but I can't remember squat anymore anyway, LOL.
I wish there was a list like the one telling temperature tolerances, that would tell which ones can take a fair amount of sun, which don't like any direct sun. I've heard some say that the carnosa's don't like direct sun and I think I've heard others say their carnosa's get a lot of sun. I had mine in sun and the foliage got burned, so maybe it just depends on the part of the world and how intense that sun is.
.... sometimes I think I've been in the Sunshine State so long that my brain has fried. ^_^
David Liddle only has a few eriostemmas listed:
affinis
ciliata
coronaria
sussuela
There's also:
guppyi
lauterbachii
cv Ruthie
I`m sure there`s more that I don`t know about. And there's also likely many sp. and cv eriostemmas. Ted Green's Rare Hoyas website doesn`t have eriostemma listed separately from the hoyas, but he says this about them:
``About Eriostemma Hoyas This is a separate genus (Eriostemma) according to some botanists - separated from Hoya by having certain characters - the most obvious being the free-standing column that stands in a hairy "cup" at the point of attachment with the corolla - (eriostemma) means wooly crown in Greek). They are terrestrial vines and like alkaline conditions. Most do not flower until they reach good light and ventilation - usually, at the tops of trees; for this reason, they may not flower under greenhouse conditions with low light intensity and stale air.``
Christine
Lin...on my website and on Joni's website there is a 'Temperature Tolerance' list. Check it out.
3G - send me photos and I can probably tell if they are Eriostemmas or not. Their leaves look very similar and the only way I can tell is by the feel...sometimes the leaf (cv. Ruthie is the only one that is totally glabrous both sides). All of their leaves are basically shaped the same, some more pubescent that others....
There is also Eriostemma holrungii, which is the same as sp. Goldstar. There is sp. Lockerby, cv. Optimistic, Girlie, Monette, Isabella. There are sp. Bada Valley, Apple Green, Sulawesi.
I think the last issue of STEMMA has a BIG article about them, surprised no one remembers.
There are some pics of Eriostemma species in a special gallery on the Stemma site:
http://www.stemmajournal.com/Eriostemma_Photo_Gallery.php
Great link Mark!
Carol, can you tell by the name? My Hoyas are mostly young cuttings...no blooms yet.
No I can put a name, even on mine growing up trees!!! They all look SO alike!!!
Carol,
I think 3G's wants to know if you can tell which hoyas are Eriostemmas by the name of the plant, not by just looking at the plant itself. If 3G's had H. affinis, ciliata, coronaria, sussuela and carnosa, you could tell which of these is an Eriostemma and which is not. Is that correct, 3G's?
Thanks,
Mike
That's right Mike. If I post a list of my Hoyas can you tell me which ones are Eriostemmas?
3G's,
Go ahead and post a list of your plants and Carol or someone else here can tell you which of your plants is an Eriostemma and which is not.
Thanks,
Mike
ok...this is what I have:
H. multiflora
H. sp. :nong nooch"
H. kentianna
H. Kentianna "wayetti"
H. Globulosa
H. Calycina
H. vitellinoides
H. sp Haraku
H. heuscheliana
h. siariae
H. dimorpha
H. pentaphlebia
H. publicalyx "RHP"
H. nicholsonii
H. macgilivrayii
H. limoniaca
H. onychoides
H. erythrostemma
H. fungi
H. cv sunrise
H. bordenii
H. thomsonii
H. shepherdii
H. erythrina
H. potsii
Wow, spell check hates Hoya names!!
Thanks in advance!!
Well, I'm not Carol or Mike, but it looks to me like NONE of your hoyas are eriostemmas...
I'm not familiar with Hoya sp. Haraku, so that one MIGHT be, but none of the others are...
Shelley
I agree with Shelley; none of your plants appear to be an Eriostemma. The sp. Haraku looks to be related to H. kentiana and H. wayetii, so that is for sure not an Eriostemma.
Mike
AHA...no, none are Eriostemmas. Lucky you!!!
Great, thanks all of you!
Christine, I don't know...do I want one? How do they grow for you?
^_^
Hey Christine ... I think you need directions to Lee Anne's house so you don't get lost! Just head south and cross the border into the U.S., continue south for a little while, then turn east for a bit and then south again. Pick up I-95 and head south towards Florida. Once you reach Jacksonville, it's only another 2 1/2 hours! Keep south on I-95 until you see the exit's for Daytona Beach, take the South Daytona exit and head east towards the beach, turn right at the second stoplight and it's about a mile down the road, the cedar and brick house right on the corner! ^_^
If you like heat and humidity Florida is a good place to be. We are still 90ºF most days, and the awful humidity is oppressive, but we do have a pool, and the beach is only about 2 miles away.
I've lived in the south all my life with the humidity, which really bothers me now that I'm older but until my husband decides to retire this is where we will be. Actually, we will probably be here for the rest of our lives because my husband has been in Florida since before he was a year old and he loves it. My dream is to live farther north during the summer and return back to Fla in the winter ... I want to be a "Snowbird" which is what folks down here call the many Canadiens that head down this way around October and return north around May 1st. ^_^
There's a lot of snowbirds up here getting ready to head south. Personally, I hate the heat, humid or not. Our summers can be quite oppressively hot and humid, but this year it was lovely - most people complained it was too cool; the same way they complain its too cold in the winter and too hot in the summer. I love the winter, snow, sleet, whatever, I can dress for it. The heat is harder to deal with because air conditioning is not everywhere, but then there's places with AC that you go into and its way too cold : yeah, that's right, if its 90F outside, of course you'll want it to be 57F inside...
LOL, I hear ya about the complaining it's too hot in summer and too cold in winter ... must admit, that's been me at times! We are freezing down here when it drops below 50ºF! Actually, I like around 45 but don't like it to get much colder than that. And, I have always wondered how folks in the north get used to wearing so many layers in the winter time. We went to Colorado one time in late November, it was -7º and what a shock to this southern gal when we first walked out of the airport! Then one year the first part of December I flew up to Maine with some folks from the college where my husband teaches, to go to a Basketball tournament our team was playing in. It was soooo cold!! I had borrowed winter clothes from my sister (who used to take ski vacations every year), and I swear I had so many layers on I felt like I couldn't keep my balance, I was afraid I would tip over at any minute, LOL. I can't imagine dealing with snow, sleet and ice for more than a few days but I guess that's because I have never had to get used to it. I know many can't stand heat and humidity and I understand that because the older I get the more I don't like it ... very draining!
Lee Anne: Yikes, it looks like I've hijacked your thread! Some of you have come to realize that I am a talker and end up rambling and getting way off topic! ~ ~ sorry ~ ~