like some sort of tell tale sign? That lets you know your brug is getting ready to 'Y'?
Are There Signs When a Brug Is About To 'Y' ?
I'm not aware of any signs prior to "Y"ing.
It always seems to me that there's a lot of "unorganized" growth before making a "Y," if that makes any sense. It just appears to be bushier, and then shortly afterwards, the "Y" appears.
Yep that is what mine did. I saw the buds before the Y because of the bushier growth.
Same here Cue....brug gets an erractic growth pattern. If this could even be considered a sign, not real sure.
one of mine has decided to start putting out a bunch of side shoots, while the other looks like its just putting out a ton of new leaves all up and donw the 'trunk'... wonder if its a sign fromt he brug gods...ROTFL!
a bi-lateral leaf is often a sign of the impending Y
LOL...ok... what is a 'bi-lateral leaf'? sorry... Im kinda slow
Where the leaf is attached to the stem one side is higher then the other rather then straight accross. Hope that makes it clear as mud for you. LOL
Bi-lateral symmetry is where one side folded or cut the lateral line is identical to the other side. In Brug vegetative leaf grown, both sides of the leaf cut along the main vein are the same. Once the Brug has "Y"ed and started to produce flowering growth, the leaves become asymmetrical at the junction with the petiole and not before.
http://countrygdn.com/infosheets/yandsub.html
Is the Bi-lateral also called serrated?
A serrated leaf is one whose edges are scalloped.
I think a bi-lateral leaf is also called a sub-equal leaf. At the base of the leaf, one side of the leaf starts farther up the stem than the other side.
hollyhocklady,
In the case of leaves in Brugs, the word bilateral would be used to describe and compare the general appearance of the leaf if one were to fold a simple leaf in half along the vein that runs from the petiole to the tip of the leaf.
Here's the explanation of what bilateral symmetry means in biology:
http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Bilateral_symmetry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetry_in_biology
If one side of the leaf is sub-equal to the other, it is not bilaterally symmetrical
An asymmetrical (or sub-equal) bi-lateral leaf
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Symmetrical bi-lateral leaf
Serrated leaves
all of the above are bi-lateral leaves
This would be an example of a leaf that is not bi-lateral. Not sure what it is called...
Bettydee???
I think this is also a leaf that is not bi-lateral
Carol, the leaves in your first photo are not bilateral. If you folded one of the leaves in half along the main vein, one side would be larger than the other. In the rest of the photos, the leaves show bilateral symmetry, even the last two. Although the last one isn't exactly identical, but then again neither are we and we are said to be bilaterally symmetrical.
Betty,
I thought bi-lateral meant two sided, and they can be symmetrical or asymmetrical.
The first photo is definately asymmetrical, but I thought it was still bi-lateral... I could be wrong. I will look it up
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There is a clear sign before the Y or fork is formed. The distance between the internodes will become much smaller (shorter) and small sprouts appear in the upper leaf axils. Those dont grow larger unless the top shoot is cut off or destroyed.
The NOID Brug that I have sent out a side shoot below the Y. It is forming buds on that shoot. Is this "normal"? I only thought the plant bloomed above the Y.
Could I take cuttings from this one and it would perforn like the growth above the Y? I hope you can see it in this picture.
Is the shoot the one off to the left? Looking at the shoot that juts off to the right below the main trunk, the leaves appear to be asymmetrical. That means that the "Y" was farther down on the trunk. Look down along the trunk, if all the leaves are asymmetrical, then the cutting came from above the "Y" on the mother plant. All the shoots that form just above each asymmetrical leaf on the trunk will behave as if they were still attached to the mother plant. If any shoots pop up from the ground, they are probably vegetative shoots.
You could make 2 good sized cuttings by taking the 2 branches that appear on your photo and rooting them. Mature wood roots easier than the really green wood so if you want more than 2 cuttings, look at the wood where you plant to make the cut.
Yes, they zig-zag on their way up the plant. i was so surpised. I couldn't beleive that was a tiny little bud forming. I am so glad. So the ones on te parent are better than the shoots coming up at the side. Wonderful, I sure do appreciate your help. thank you, Miss bettydee.
Charleen
No necessarily better,Miss Charleen. LOL. The branches that arise from above the "Y" give you blooms sooner because the "Y" has already formed. However those branches grow in a zig zag manner. If you want a tree-like Brug then the vegetative shoots are better because they grow straight up. It takes longer to get blooms, but you get a straight trunk. :-)
Dog gone, we all want the best of both worlds, don't we? I bet you have a super garden. I have a shoot in a pot now and I got from the base, I have pinched it in the top and it is branching out, so i should have a good size plant. I am already needing to transplant it. i am going to bring it in and hope it will make it thru the winter. Thanks for the help. Charleen
Charleen, A Brug is one plant you don't want to pinch. Pinching does force the Brug to produce side shoots, but it lengthens the time it will take to bloom. Brugs produce 2 types of growth: vegetative and flowering growth. Vegetative growth is a single tall and straight stalk. It will grow until it "Y"s. Its height is determined genetically. Pinching the tip will force the plant to start over again by producing new shoots that also need to grow to a certain height before producing a "Y".
Veronica
Veronica, I got myself in a mess cause I have pinced the top out of a couple. They are so nice looking. I never thought about them having two different growths. They are one of the most interesting plants I have ever paid attention too. Mine has already bloomed once but it has some more buds froming. I believe I will get another bunch before the first frost here. i could never believed there was a plant such as this. I want to Thank you all for putting up with my questions and helping me learn. Charleen
she is getting ready for her second set of blooms. Even the Y's Have Y's. I can't believe so much can happen on one plant.
I didn't know anyone could get so involved with plants but I guess I've been working al these years and just didn't take time.
I taken a couple cutting but she is still giving her all.
