I'm in the process of moving to Mass, this weekend, from Florida.
I grew all tropicals in Florida. I'm obviously going to have to adjust my plant selection.
What do you all grow in New England? Looking through the forum, I see lilies, hostas, roses - what else does well here?
A couple of yeats ago, I sent my sister (North Shore of Mass) some cannas, and they seemed to do pretty well.
What can I plant now? Too late for seeds, I imagine ... they'll have to be store-bought plants.
Do you all exchange seeds? I can start preparing now for next spring.
All advice is welcome.
Steve
canna Cleopatra
Hi All - Newbie to New England, Need Advice
Welcome to the north east garden forum .You will find many relly friendly great people here.
Chrysanthemum will be on the market in September. Some winter over and some dont. They are a bright colorfull flower when most summer gardens are ending
Start your tulip orders.
There are Florida people who wished they lived in Mass when spring comes and all the "fall planted bulbs" are in bloom.
Almost any perennial can be planted now but I wait until spring. Late season planting like now will risk enough root development to take the plant thru the winter.
Thats just my opinion others may have other ideas
welcome steve - you can still plant this fall for next spring - in fact most of the garden centers have begun having sales because the wet spring we've had hurt sales. i am still planting the occasional purchase now and will watch these closely and keep them going through the summer. on top of the bulbs and perennials you can plant a large selection of japanese maples, shrubs, and conifers. just watch the blooms thread here and keep a pen, paper, and thick check book handy!!
bill
Oh, I wrote a whole article about why it's better to plant perennials in the fall than in the spring! And already the fall sales are starting of everything they didn't sell during the spring.
http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/1474/
Right now, outside my window, is a display of daylilies, achillea, hardy geranium, monarda and coreopsis. Where in MA are you moving to? Come take them away, the whole garden needs to be divided!
In the spring we have creeping phlox and geum, and basket-of-gold. Later in the fall we have helenium and chrysanthemums and asters.
Joann is right about fall planted bulbs - it's a New England fall tradition.
It sort of kind of depends on how long you'll be staying - is this a permanent move? If so, then you can invest in shrubs that may take a while to grow to flowering size/age, like lilacs, peonies, neither of which can grow in Florida! (I have a lilac in a pot which has not bloomed yet - I have nowhere to plant it.)
We do trade seeds and plants (there's a get-together at nutsfordaylily's place this Sunday, the 19th). We live closer to each other than folks in other places (is that fair to say?) anyway, some kind of trade seems to happen about once a month. Oh, and because we have a real winter, we do wintersowing after Christmas! So we collect seeds now, from friends, from catalogs, from ripe plants in restaurants, I've heard!
Plus the Northeast Forum is The Best, right, folks?
Steve, I could give you starts of hydrangea 'Quick Fire' and other things ... look in my trade list before you go spending a lot of money!!
Thanks everybody. I'm moving to Worcester, permanently.
Carrie, so nice of you to offer. You are all as friendly and generous as the Florida Gardening people.
I actually have given away tons of plants - I'm mailing them out all ther time, especially to newbies. All tropicals, though.
I don't think Worcester is all that far from Milton, is it? Once I get myself settled in, I'll get in touch. I'm not really in a position to make large purchases.
Steve
'Mickey Mouse' taro, Xanthosoma atrovirens 'Variegatum Monstrosum'
Nothing is 'that far' from anywhere in MA. But there is a problem if you are used to straight roads. Irises grow here as well as daylilies--look at boojum & nutsfor daylilies posts. Daff, crocus & tulips for spring. Sedum for fall. roses are good.
Steve, it's an hour or two. I've never been TO Worcester, but I've been past it many times. Oh, DH says it's 30 miles.
Seandor (Michaela) lives in Worcester. You'll meet her.
Hi, Steve. Welcome to New England.
I always have extra plants to share. Day Lilies, hosta, sedum, heuchera, iris and coriopsis for starters. Strawberries and grape vines, too. Dahlias next spring.
Andy P
Andy,
Thanks. I'll be in touch. I'm leaving FLA tomorrow, and driving up.
Steve
Welcome, Steve! I'm a Floridian by birth, but have adopted New England as my home place of choice and NH as my the state where my soul sings. We do spend the winter in south Florida, but we are in southern New Hampshire for the summer and fall. We are having a get-together and a plant swap/pot luck lunch at our farm on September 19th, and you are most welcome to come and meet people and help yourself to some plants that people bring to share. This is a very friendly and light-hearted group of people on the NE Forum, and we are always happy to have new friends here. I hope your move goes well and that you enjoy your settling in and making yourself at home among us.
Louise
Louise,
Small world - I lived in Francestown for a few years, before moving to Florida.
I'll keep the plant swap in mind, although I'm afraid I won't have much to swap.
A friend has been over my house the last 2 weekends, and both times, she filled the bed of her pickup with tropicals from my garden, until she couldn't fit anymore. There are still plants left - neighbors are helpiing themselves now.
Steve
Hi Steve,
It is a small world indeed. Please don't let your having no plants to swap keep you from coming to our gathering. There is no requirement to bring plants, and in fact, there are always more than enough plants for everyone who wants them. If you list what you want, anyone who has those plants will make an effort to bring them for you, if possible. This is a very generous and giving group of people, and I can assure you, you will enjoy getting to know people.
I can imagine how good it felt for you to have friends give loving homes to your tropicals. We are blessed to have great neighbors in Florida who keep any eye on our plants there for us.
I'm assuming you are keeping tabs on DG via your laptop in a hotel on the trip north.....just as I do when we are traveling north to south and vice versa. LOL Have a safe trip!
Louise (attaching a collage that also has Yellow Wing in it, I think.)
It must be hard to see so many plant go. It's been 24 years since I moved and I never made such a profound Zone change.
You wont have any trouble finding plants, the hard part will be deciding what to try.
Cannas and most items that can go dormant for a few months grow well with a little planning. There's a barber shop in town that is known for it's Cannas out front. Just mention Chicks and flowers come to mind.
How big is the new yard?
Drive carefully.
Andy P
Hi Andy. How was Karen's RU today? I wish we could have come. Please try to come to our place in September if you can!
Louise
Welcome to NE, Steve. Don't forget Lilacs! Korean spicebush (viburnum), hyacinths and lily of the valley for spring fragrance. In case you miss gardenia and other tropical fragrants. Not so much black spot on roses, though I would do those in the spring. You can do cannas here, but you have to lift them in the fall, I think. I have grown caladiums in containers, but this would be an annual if you don't lift them also. Will you have sunny window space in your new place? I have 8 sizable hibiscus and a pony tail palm in pots. several of the hibiscus are blooming up a storm at the moment, but they do it indoors in a sunny place all winter, too.
Martha
I highly recommend going to Donnie's RU. The timing is perfect. You will have time to get settled and start your vision of a garden layout.
I just got back from Karen's (Nutsfordaylilies) RU. There were established plants, bare root, cuttings and seeds of all types to share. I brought 4 boxes full and came back with 2, I'm full up. There is always plenty.
Kassia had a RU 2 years ago, same thing. Lots of great plants, some I will keep for ever.
I have a lilac 'Sensation' that I realized was going to be too big for me. I found it in a catalog and fell in love with the bicolored petals, but when I saw it at the Arnold Arboretum a few years ago, I sawt it was way too large for my tiny space.
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/64935/
Mine is in a pot, a few feet tall, never bloomed.
carrie, you have to wait for lilacs. once they start though you shouldn't have any problems. I waited 5 years for my current white to get big enough to bloom. My pink double, however came out with a flower after 3 years.
Martha
But I don't WANT it - the one at AA is so big. I don't have enough space for a lilac, I think. :(
hello and welcome Steve... hope your trip is a safe one
Hi Steve, welcome and when you get settled, send me your address. Your lack of plants will be dealt with. ^_^ Hope you like daylilies, lilies and Iris's!! lol
carrie you can keep it trimmed but only 1/3 per year so the other 2/3 will bloom each year.
I know, I just don't want it. Thanks, Bill! ^_^
women can be fickle :)
Really????!! :o
I'm not fickle; I just didn't have a good plan when I bought it (when it was 6" long) and now that I know more about it, and have nursed it to the size of 2' tall, I feel it should go to someone with a sunny blank spot.
Welcome to my town. Today my advice is to move back to Fla. Raining and 60 degrees. Grrrr.
I've grown beautiful canna and tropical blubs from Fl. I also have hibiscus that a aren't that hard to over winter.
If you need some iris, cacti, mini hollyhocks...well practically anything I have let me know. I live near the Millbury line.
Maureen
I've got daylilies and some siberian iris to spare, should you care. It's been a good daylily year for me. I can do yellow, pink and some dark red on the daylilies and the siberians are dark blue. Hardy as all get out.
Martha
Welcome to New England, Steve. While I understand your eagerness to plant things, be sure to pause, survey the land and do a little planning first. I didn't when I moved east, and had to dig up and relocate many hastily planted bushes!
One of my garden books recommends planting annuals and trees the first year in a new garden. Trees, because they take so long to grow big, annuals so you will have some color but don't have to make big decisions early on. Shrubs and perennials can come later after you have a garden plan.
There are lots of seed exchanges and plant sharing meets in our area. Notices will start popping up on this board in the winter.
HI Steve: Welcome to the North and the Northeast Forum of Dave's Garden. As you can see from the post you have joined a very active group. They are though all a little weird you know like all other Gardeners they all have Gardenitice. No cure just keeps happening over and over again. They are all very nice people.
We are not to far from you in Worcester, Atkinson, NH is next to Haverhill, MA. I have a Blog http://jwlwgardens.com Stop by any time and see what we are doing and growing. Near you in Boylston, MA. is Tower Hill Botanical Gardens it is the home of the Worcester County Horticultural Society. They have great display gardens of what they are growing there. Lots of other Gardening activities there also.
Liza and I also have a place in Florida and we do garden there to.
Hope to see you at the Fall Round Up at DonnieBrook's invite above.
Enjoy your evening,
Liza and John at JWLW Liza and John's Garden
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Hi Steve, I hope your trip went well. Welcome to Massachusetts, New England and the northeast forum. I don't think you mentioned if this was a new home without previous landscaping or a new never dug lot. If it was previously owned I think I would be content with pots of mums and other fall goodies and wait to see what surprises may already be in the garden for next spring. Check out what to keep and what you want to replace or add. Watch where the sun is in the yard and plan what you will need to get going. Something you may also consider up here is the fall foliage color of plants and shrubs. Lots of fun starting over and I imagine a bit of a culture shock too. Once again welcome and good luck.
Oh, Steve, you really should just rent a pick-up truck and a shovel and come on over. EVERYTHING needs to be divided and dug up and rearranged and we don't have the ability to do it ourselves. Way too many big yellow day lilies and Stella d'Oros and achillea and and and ...
Hi Everyone
Just want to pop in and say thanks for the warm welcome you gave Steve (Skaz421) I am the lucky recipient of his tropical garden that he sadly had to leave after putting so much hard work into it. I know once he gets settled in up there he willl be raring to get into the dirt again and learn all about seasonal gardening and plants. I know it will be a big change from year round gardening. Just wanted to share a picture I took today of one of Steve's babies that delighted me with a bloom within just weeks of being dug up & moved. Thinking of you Steve and hope the transition is going well.
Jan...
Hi Jan! Thanks for stopping by and sharing a shot of your pretty birdie with us. I planted a couple of them at our house in Fort Myers right before we left for the summer, and I'm anxious to see if we will have some blooms when we return in October. I love the gorgeous flowers! Are you surviving the hot, hot, hot days down there? We haven't heard from Steve since he arrived, but I'm sure he's still settling in. Don't worry, we'll all take good care of him up here. He'll be inundated with seeds and plants when he is ready!
Louise
Hi Louise
It's a typical summer. Actually where I am at, it rarely gets over 95-96 as we're pocketed between the gulf and tampa bay and get a lot of crosswinds.
However, as I have rosacea, I have to confine my outdoor activities to morning or evening or my face flushes like a lobster until I can in the a/c. Fortunately it only lasts a couple hours before fading again, LOL
You guys will definitle have to teach him about winter sowing so he doesn't go through withdrawals.
Hi Budgie! I'm having a DG gathering at our farm in NH in September, and I'm hoping we can get him to come to that so he can meet some of the NE Forum folks. They are all just great. I didn't realize you live on my side of the state in Fla. (I say that like a native, and I am! LOL) Maybe this winter our paths will cross somehow down there!
Louise
Steve.......where are you??? Are you moved in yet????
