ID: White Plumeria would like a name, PLEASE?

Scottsdale, AZ(Zone 9b)

I received this from a DG friend (who shall remain nameless since he frequents this forum) who gave me a small, tri-branched cutting for winning a fun forum game. He called it "Brad's White" since his friend, BRAD, gave it to him. (I hope I'm correct in that story, "nameless".

I'm wondering if any of you passionate, plumeria DG'ers can identify the actual name of my wonderful tree.

Here are 3 photos taken last summer in different stages from inflow as well as a full 2008 "potted" show and a photo I took last week. When I saw the initial inflow I thought, "Holy Moly! It's going to be pink!" It is indeed, white.

Thank you in advance if you can help!

~Robin

Sept. 2008 Inflows

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Scottsdale, AZ(Zone 9b)

Pink bottoms!

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Scottsdale, AZ(Zone 9b)

Full Bloom. Again, late Sept. 2008.

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Scottsdale, AZ(Zone 9b)

Here it is last summer in just a 12 inch pot!

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Scottsdale, AZ(Zone 9b)

Taken last month: June 20, 2009. No inflows...still producing leaves. Today, it now tops the fence.

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Scottsdale, AZ(Zone 9b)

I'm sure you've all been through this, but for me it was amazing.

Here's what I had to do to take the pot OUT of the bed to put it in the garage last winter. It was still putting out blooms. LOL

Roots I had to cut from the bottom of the pot.

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Scottsdale, AZ(Zone 9b)

Roots exposed in the soil after removing pot. They were quite thick and well established in the soil from just the 3 holes the pot had.

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Scottsdale, AZ(Zone 9b)

The "Void" of where it once was.

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Scottsdale, AZ(Zone 9b)

Moved to it's winter home. (Boy, that 3rd branch made it hard to hold on the dolly.) I kept wanting to lean forward. It was wider than my side gate exit!

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Scottsdale, AZ(Zone 9b)

Side view...

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Scottsdale, AZ(Zone 9b)

Last photo: Still putting out blooms in the garage.

I adore this plumeria.

Again, any help is most appreciated.

Thanks Gang!

~Robin

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Scottsdale, AZ(Zone 9b)

Duh! Found my own answer in an old thread I just read:

"I'm the one that passed out 'Brad's White' to everyone, including ****, who passed it on to you. Your tree is beautiful. 'Brad's White' has no real name. I just made up the name 'Brad's White' because it came from Brad here at Dave's and because he told me it was a white. It does start out a faint light pink though and quickly fades to white. The pink stripe on the back doesn't count as far as the color goes. I was going to name it 'Brad's Pink,' but by that time, I had already passed out quite a few with its nickname. It's not a legitmate name so it can't be entered into PlantFiles like someone already tried to do."

So, Brad's White it is.

You know who you are...thank you VERY much for informing me and provide me with such a lovely plumeria. ^_^

Robin

Phoenix, AZ(Zone 9b)

Robin, you're a silly goose :)
Brittany

Tucson, AZ

hmmm...i thought that we went over this once before. :D i like how you've cronicled you plumies progree.

Scottsdale, AZ(Zone 9b)

Hehe, Brit. I'm tellin' ya, with business being slow some of my brain is has gone into a deep sleep. Yeah D, you were involved in that thread...and Clare. I didn't realize it until I hunted for a thread I started and found THE thread about the ID of this one. Duh!!

Anywhoo, I'm happy 'cause my plumie is happy.

Thx, D. I keep monthly logs/photos of pics I take each year in my pictures folder. One day I'll take the time to organize it better.

Happy Gardening!

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Hi Robin,

I just sent you a Dmail to answer your question, and then I figured that I would join again! It looks like you found the answer already. Yes, "Brad's White" is not an official name, just a made-up name to give the original owner credit for his generosity in passing out his lovely tree. I have one too, and I've given away many, many rooted cuttings to people who come to visit me.

Scottsdale, AZ(Zone 9b)

Yay!! I just read your Dmail and was a tad upset that we would be without your expertise, support and wisdom. Great news!!!

Detrick Dmailed me also. lol

Great news all around. I'm a happy camper! ^_^

Robin

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

You're sweet:-) I let my subscription expire last year and wasn't going to re-join due to lack of time to read and write, but your question made me want to re-join:-) Brad (FlyboyFL) is one of the nicest, most generous people here at Dave's Garden, and I wanted to make sure he got credit for having the original tree and passing it around so generously. Brad shared it it with me; I shared it with Dete; and Dete shared it with you. I'm sure it's all over the country by now thanks to FlyboyFL.

He also passed around his 'Teresa Wilder,' which has opened its first bloom for me today. It's an outstanding cultivar from a terrific guy and is one of my favorites.

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Scottsdale, AZ(Zone 9b)

I have Teresa Wilder too!!!! Actually, I had a double ended cutting Dete gave me that created a break and grew to about 3ft from the break. Leafed out well but my neighbor for some reason must have some magic dust over there. I told her that when it goes dormant this fall, we need to cut it at the break so it grows straight up instead from out the side of the cutting. And, told her that the original cutting should produce another break and I'd like to have that one and try it again. So, as much as I love the color of TW, I gave it to her on her birthday. I also gave her my A. Curly White and Abigail seedlings and they doubled in size within gosh, a week - seriously! It too now has huges leaves and has substancially increased in size. She ain't gettin' my F. Alba though. That's too rare and so gnarly looking! Sure, it's white like my B. White, but it makes for a brighter evening garden.

You rock, Clare! I'll be around.

Thanks again,

Robin

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Awesome! Sounds like you've got the Aloha Spirit!

Nice chatting with you...

Phoenix, AZ(Zone 9b)

Well now I need to thank Robin for bringing Clare back... yay...
Brittany

Scottsdale, AZ(Zone 9b)

Aww, shucks. ^_^

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

LOL!

Longboat Key, FL

Clare:

Thanks for telling me about this thread.

and, Robin;

Maybe I can help.

The original source was a fifteen-inch cutting that I got in a grab-bag when I first got hooked on Plumies and bought my first one -- a Teresa Wilder. This was back in 2004. I connected with DG, and Clare about the same time.

This one really took off. I just stuck it in the ground and away it went. I started a bunch of cuttings from the resulting plant -- and they quickly turned into Plumeria trees.(I hate to destroy any viable, living things)

They started to close in on us, so I have culled out most of them, and am now left with only five. Two of these five were cut down to the ground last year -- and they came back like gangbusters -- and now are big bushes and have a half-dozen inflos.

(see these two: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/967524/)

(for a typical inflo, see: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1000317/)

I am grateful to Clare, because she volunteered, for a long while, to be the forwarder for all of my cuttings.

I sort of feel like an aged version of Johnny Appleseed, knowing that so many good people are enjoying and spreading around these beautiful and living things that have already given me so much joy.

Be well

d(=_=)b

Scottsdale, AZ(Zone 9b)

Thank you SO much for chiming in FlyBoy! I think you're the source of my Teresa Wilder now adopted by my neighbor. I still plan on taking a cutting of the next break it has next season. Between my roses, suckers, runners still sending up shoots from plants I removed last year, my other plants and to quote you,

Quoting:
I hate to destroy any viable, living things
that are rooting in water or soil, I found that dealing with the seedlings and more than 2 plumeria at a time was too much for me. However, I have recently chosen to take on one more larger one to flank the other side of my pool area.

That cutting to the ground of BW and seeing it break into all of that branching and stating that's indestructable is encouraging.

Now, you STRESSED "tree". Is that a good thing or bad thing. lol

It makes me happy to know who, where and how these cuttings reached their final destination.

Thank you for offering your contributions, encouragement and knowledge. I now have a stories for all that I received.

All the best,

Robin

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Thanks, Brad, for your comments. It is good to know the origins. I too hate to kill any viable, living thing, but I've also learned not to plant invasive vines and things so I don't have to kill them:-) LOL!

You are for sure Johnny Appleseed. As we've remodeled, many a worker have admired my plumerias, and thankfully, I've had rooted 'Brad's White' to give them. I've given one to my neighbor who said that she had one from Hawaii, but it had died on her. I've also given one to Joe Prater, the plumber; Jeremiah Stamp, the electrician; Larry Harrold, the backhoe operator; Pat the artificial grass salesman; Nicolas Simoncioni, the handyman; and many others. I gave a rooted 'Teresa Wilder' to the elderly neighbor behind me that has a large yellow/white but wanted another color. And then there were about 20 people here at Dave's Garden that got cuttings so your good tidings have spread far and wide:-) I too am grateful to be your friend and be the recipient of your generosity.

These are definitely trees, but it is a relief to know that they can be pruned mercilessly and still survive. It kind of scares me to have over 100 TREES planted on a little less than a half acre. I think I may have to cull a few out myself eventually.

My dear friend Kukiat has taken some marvelous pictures of what these plumerias eventually become: trees. Here is a link to some of his pictures showing the size they get: http://www.kukiatsgardens.com/Plumerias.html



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Longboat Key, FL

Johnny and Janey -- Appleseed.

What a combo !

Glad to have had you as a partner.

Be well

d(^_^)b

Mulberry, FL

What great pictures my seedlings are just starting to start flowering I can only hope after all this time I get something decent those just blow you away. Like to see his tropical fruits too. Thanks for sharing!

Thomasville, GA(Zone 8a)

Clare, you sent me 4 cuttings of Brad White and they are doing well. Thank you Elaine

Phoenix, AZ(Zone 9b)

Clare, where do you live so that I can come over and offer to paint your house or something in exchange for plumeria... lol... lucky plumber... lol...
Brittany

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Hi Elaine! It's nice to see you here again. I'm glad those are doing well for you!

LOL, Brittany. We got Tex Cote on the house so we'll never have to paint again! LOL! It's suppose to last for 100 years or something like that. Everyone that I gave a 'Brad's White' to all knew exactly what plumerias were and admired them. The plumber was particularly enamored with plumerias and had a few at his home already. He knew a lot about them. It actually surprised me how many people I encountered that knew all about them. And then there were others that thought they were fruit trees! LOL!

Phoenix, AZ(Zone 9b)

Fruit trees... *snort*...

Scottsdale, AZ(Zone 9b)

I was thinking the same thing earlier! Too funny!

Longboat Key, FL

I am lucky. Just discovered that my lady dermatologist loves them -- so I can deliver cuttings in person.

Viva la plumeria !!!

Be well

: )

Brad - surely a great opportunity for bartering!

Longboat Key, FL

Hetty:

Good idea.

But my garden is loaded -- and, anyhow, Medicare pays for my visits -- and the stuff she scrapes off of me, I don't want back -- and I am too old (and, besides, my DDW is sitting right there in the room with me.)

Do not go gentle into that good night.

Be well

(o_O)

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

That's great, Brad. I also brought a rooted 'Brad's White' to a woman who works at Albertson's as a check-out person because she always wears a plumeria in her hair behind her ear during the summer. She said she had quite a few in her yard too. She was so happy to see the plant I brought her.

Longboat Key, FL

How long did it take to root? I have to tell my dermatologist, tomorrow.

Be well

Brad

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

About 2-3 months, Brad. Tell her to place it in a warm location (if not in the ground) and water when the soil looks dry.

Longboat Key, FL

Thanks.

Brad

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