Need ID for this Gorgeous Lily Please.

It just popped up in one of my pots and I don't know what it is, but Wow!!! what gorgeous color and form.
Josephine.

Josephine,
It's Copper Lily or Habranthus tubispathus.

Thank you Agaveguy, I am really thrilled to know that it is a Texas native, this one has the copper stripes, it is just beautiful.
http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=HATU
Josephine.

That's a pretty little surprise you have there, Josephine!

Yes, I was so excited to find it, I could very well have missed it since the plants in that pot are supposed to be dormant, it may have come from Lee, with the Prairie Nymph, Herbertia lahue lilies he gave me at the swap. Aren't these adorable too?
http://wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=HELA6

Mine bloomed a few days ago. Only lasted one day with this heat. They often bloom in the autumn after a rain and last a bit longer with lower temps.
Eric

Very neat Eric, that is exactly like mine.

Josephine,
These grow wild in my yard on thin, rocky soil under live oaks. The one in the photo is in my dry garden and I was told it was from seed collected in Argentina. This species is native there also. Isn't it interesting that it can be native to both places and has not evolved into two different species?

It would be nice to have them growing wild here too, but I had never seen it before.

I'm so happy for you, Josephine! The Copper Lily is beautiful! I think they like certain soils. I used to see them in certain areas of San Antonio in late summer/early fall.

josephine....it's possible I inadvertently mixed a copper Lily with the Prairie Nymphs....I was repotting some of both during the days before our ETRU earlier this year....I'll need to bring you some more H. tubispathis next time we get together to go with that one!!

Thank you Lee, I thought it might be you, it is beautiful and I sure would love to have more.
I hope you are feeling better from you snake bite.
Josephine.

Got your name on some!!

Yes,...I'm doing much better with less pain....unless I try to do too much.....swelling in my leg has gone down some with the swelling around the ankle is about the same....my foot - still swollen but I can feel carpet wiLeeth my toes again...so that is a sign the swelling is coming down
I'm tryin' to be patient Thank you for your encouragement and concern!

Josephine
What is the best internet source to identily Texas native plants? The A & M site is mostly trees. Lady BIrd Johnson data base sometimes is unclear and it will indicate lower 48 states which sometimes will not include Texas.
Jameso

Hello James, I use a variety of sources, but I like wildflower.org the best because of the info and the pictures. It does show all the plants native to north America, but if you scroll down on the page you will see if Texas is included, or not.

I also like usda.gov because it shows the maps, and if a plant is native to Texas it will show the map as well as which counties it grows in, although the county info is not very reliable because it only shows what has been reported, and as we know, not everything gets reported.
I also use Dave's and Google, you can always get bits of information from many sources.

Frank and I put together a Texas native plants search engine that includes all the plants on the usda list with links for each plant to Dave's, wildflower.org and usda.org.
It also has many other features such as searching by type of plant, by color, by duration and many other ways.
Here is the link, try it and see what you think;
http://www.npot.org/
Josephine.

The Habranthus tubispathus is delightful bloomer does well in the moist conditions we have here also. In some years, we will see large areas of these blooms shining. They are beautiful. I let the seeds spread all thru the yard and beds.

Thanks for the info Josephine. I do look at that map on USDA but I wasn't sure if the green denoted native plant status or just where it's been reported growning. That's quite a search engine you and Frank put together.
Jameso

Thank you James, I do have a question for you, you gave me seeds for a plant called Desmodium, but I lost the tag and now can not be sure whether it is Desmodium canadense, or Desmodium canecens.
Do you remember which one?
I have some little plants and would like to have the right name for them, I hope you can tell me.
Josephine.

Josephine
It was the "canadense" It is a host plant to at lease three butterflies, but I originally thought it was a Texas Native plant but I've learned since then its not..but the blooms are very pretty I think.
James

Thank you James, that makes me very happy. The wildflower center shows Desmodium canadense it as being native to Texas;
http://wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=DECA7
and so does USDA;
http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=DECA7
Who told you it wasn't?
Josephine.

So if it's native to Texas, why does NPIN say this?
Native Distribution: N.S. to s. Sask., s. to MD, WV, TN, LA & OK
Texas isn't mentioned. There used to be an official list of the plants native to Texas online...now gone. I don't trust that L48 thing. I mean, does that mean native in at least one of the 48 states? As far as I know, the USDA maps only show where plants grow, not whether they are native.

Well I guess they forgot to mention it, but Texas is listed on the list of states where it grows.

Lots of things can grow here. Sorry...it's the fault of the online databases that can't tell anyone what is native in what states and I often get frustrated. Then, too, it's extremely hot these days and I'm already tired of watching plants wilt and die. But tomorrow could be better....

Josephine
I tried to find the web site that sold the seed and it had a map of where it's native but haven't had much luck. I did re-look at my Lady bird Johnson Wildflower website and it shows "lower 48" as native, but then a line or two under that notation it lists individual states and Texas is not shown. I'm really donfused on all of this. Are the some of the leaves on your plant already turning brown? Mine have for a couple of weeks but the plant is still healty. Every time I work with it the seeds stick on my shirt and my wife gets on me for "wearing" them in the house. I've told her I'd have to get a new wife if she was going to insult my plants. Then she reminds me I'd have to train a new cook and that stops the conversation.
Jameso

James, I am afraid you lose the contest with your wife, food wins over stickers everyday.
My plants are very small, about 6 inches tall, they are still seedlings.
The leaves are round, rather than oval, and they seem to be trying to make a little vine.
What do yours look like?
I am thinking the plants might be D. canescens rather than canadense by the pictures I have seen.
Josephine.

Josephine
The leaves on mine are oval, but with a littlte bit of a pointed tip but not much of one. Its not vine like although the stems are slender like a phlox and do lean. Is this a plant that came from the seeds I sent you? I looked back at the invoice from my original purchase and it's supposed to be the canadense. I also just had shipped to me about a month ago about 20 plugs and their leaves are the same. I've got to go to the Rio Grand Valley next week for business and when I get back I'll package up one of the seedlings and send it to you. Tomorrow I'll also send a picture of the leaves and bloom so you can compare. Hopefully I won't forget. I'll be in texasPuddy Cat's territory next week. One of these days I'm going to try to meet her. I met LindaTX8 the last time I was in Kerrville. She had bought a swan plant for me for the pipevine butterfly which I had been looking for for 4 years.S(aristolochia erecta). When I get to the Vally there's a Mike Heep that is a native plant nurseryman and landscapper, is supposed to have some more of those for me plus some pellitory. Don't mean to ramble there's lots of nice people in this native plant "gig". Last thought-Two years on a trip to the Valley I took two hour detour to buy a wild lime that I also spent several years trying to buy. At that time Florida couldn't ship it to Texas.. I got to the nursery and in talking with the owner found out he was an x armed forces man and we compared stories. Now a couple of years later Texas Country Reporter has done a story on him and his classes to kids on the various plants in that desolate territory and how the people got water, ate some of thlem, made sewing materials, etc. He's pretty knowledgeable..

I will also try taking a picture of my plants so you can see. Please don't go to all the trouble of sending plants, maybe you can bring it to the October R.U.
It looks like you meet a lot of interesting people on your travels, that is a lot of fun.
Josephine.

Let me know the dates and place..I've evidently missed that info. I do have two things comming up in October a so hopefully there's no conflict.

I surely will as soon as we set a date, we need to get with it , but it is so hot now, it is hard to really get into it.

James, here is the picture of my Desmodium plant, as you can see the leaves are roundish and it is a little hairy too.

Josephine

My plants don't have the round shape like the smaller leafs on the bottom of the picture, but they are oblong like the end plants. I thought the tips of the leaves were poijnted. I got my wife to take a picture but we had to leave before I could send it to you. I'll be back in town Saturday so I'll send it then if we can figure out how to do it. Have you heard of a plamt called a stylosthanes bifora aslo called side beak?
James H

Josephine
I've still got to send that picture of the candenese to show the leaves. Also I noticed on your "want list" that you were looking for the noseburn. Do you still need that. I have one about two years old I'm fixing to trash since the butterfly that uses that as a host evidently doesn't frequent east Texas. You have to wear gloves to handle it though. I can get it to you through one of the plant trades, I'm looking for seeds for the white native ascelpias with a name like "texenis". I'm at the office without my plant books so ignor my spelling.I have a line on where to pick up some really small seedlings but if you know where there are seeds available that would be as good.
jameso

Thank you James, I will be very happy to have the Noseburn hopefully we can exchange it at one of the swaps.
As to the Asclepias texana,
http://wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=ASTE
I don't have seeds, Linda gave me a plant and it didn't make it, maybe she has some.
Josephine.

Josephine
I was able to pick up from pretty large milkweed plants so hopefully thery are big enough to make it. I met a friend of yours at the Native Plant Society meeting in Fredsrickburg. I think her name was Dawn Hancock. She told me she was in your chapter.
James

Hello James, yes Dawn is the president of the Fort Worth chapter of which i am a member, she is very nice.
Which milkweed did you find?
Josephine.

The asclepias texana. What does it mean endemic to Texas. I know I didn't spell that word right.
Jameso

Endemic means it is native only to a certain area, in this case Texas.
I am so excited for you, the flowers are truly beautiful on the Asclepias texana, and the plant is very different too, Congratulations !!!
Josephine.

Oh! I must have missed this before! Glad you got some of those milkweeds, jameso. If I'd known you wanted some when we met up in Medina, I could have given you a couple of little plants then. I was able to start seeds earlier this year. Sorry to hear about your plant, Josephine. Maybe I can give you more sometime.

Oh Linda, you are so kind, that would be lovely, what would I do without such good friends.
Josephine.

Linda
A trip to Natives of Texas a fews weeks after I met with you netted me another Swan Plant (erectus whatever.). Then on my trip to the Valley Heep Nurseries found and potted 5 more so I'm ready for the Pipevine Swallowtail next year.
Jameso