Anyone able to ID this one?

noonamah, Australia

Apart from the flower, it looks pretty unusual for a passionfruit.

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noonamah, Australia

My first impression was that the leaves belonged to another plant.

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noonamah, Australia

The unripe fruits are a dark blackish green. About the same size as normal passionfruit.

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noonamah, Australia

Hopefully someone here will be able recognise it, would appreciate its identity.
Thanks.

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Covington, LA(Zone 8b)

I am pretty sure that this is P. ligularis. I found this antique drawing on line.
Johanna

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noonamah, Australia

Thanks Johanna, I googled it and came up with lots of photos, it certainly looks like Passiflora ligularis, Sweet Granadilla.

noonamah, Australia

Further research has thrown a spanner in the works for me. I've planted some seeds but now read this about its climatic preferences:

"It likes climates ranging from 15° to 18° C and between 600 and 1000 mm of annual rain. It lives at altitudes ranging from 1700 to 2600 meters above sea level."

My winter temperatures will cook it well and truely, not to mention summer.


Covington, LA(Zone 8b)

Yea. There are many passiflora that I can't grow here in Louisiana because of the extreme heat and humidity. I can't tell you how many plant thats I have lost. Even p. alata--which grows in Florida and should work here.
There are a few others that have that same leaf and rampant growth as ligularis. I did look for one that bore purple fruit---but fruit is not often shown. The one I did find showed ligularis with yellow fruit.
Johanna

noonamah, Australia

My Passiflora ligularis seeds have sprouted now. It's still winter here so I'll see how they go.

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Covington, LA(Zone 8b)

Looking good!
I know some passiflora seeds need special treatment to sprout. In the wild, animals eat the fruit and the seeds pass thru the digestive system before being deposited on the ground. I have heard the some folks feed the fruit/seeds to their infants and collect the seeds after digestion. Or soak the seeds in orange juice. There's all kinds of preplanting efforts.
Johanna

Covington, LA(Zone 8b)

Tropic B

There is a forum for passi collectors that has some of the world leaders in the discovery, hybridizing, and marketing of passiflora. I've belonged to it for a few years--since 2003. These people live all over the world. Originally the forum was set up for them to communicate among themselves but they allow the public to participate. Some of the members are Patrick Whorley, John MacDougal, Michael Kartuz, Elizabeth Waterton, Carole Lee Boyles, Richard Boender, Marizo Vecchia, Bettina and Torsen Ulmer, John Vanderplank, Christian Fuelette (sp), Cors Laurens, Roland Fischer, etc. Many of these people go out into the jungles of the world and bring new and rare species passies into cultivation. They hybridize plants for the market. They sometimes share seed , cuttings, and even plants with the list--first come first serve. I was so impressed when I had problems with p. edulis McCain and was able to actually communucate with Patrick Whorley (the hybridizer who developed McCain)) personally.
Sometimes the info is more technical than I need, but LOTS of the info is hands on practical. They are glad to take questions from novices--most of them are very polite people. And it is in English even though so many of them speak Eng. as a second language.
If you are serious about collecting passiflora, buy "Passiflora-Passionflowers of the World" by Thorsen Ulmer and John MacDougal--Timber Press .It is the best book yet. Partrick Whorley has a cookbook for passionfruit for sale on his site.
And Join this forum!!
I got into passiflora because of butterflies but the plants have become an addiction!

Covington, LA(Zone 8b)

[HYPERLINK@listserv.surfnet.nl]

This is the address for the forum. It originates from the Netherlands but a guy at the University of Virginia monitors it here in the states.
Visit the site and search ligularis to read the discussions.



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Covington, LA(Zone 8b)

https://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/passiflora-l.html

Hope this works.

noonamah, Australia

Thanks Flicker, that last one worked. Now I need to spend a bit of time researching.

Fair Grove, MO(Zone 6b)

Flicker is right about the Passion flower book he discusses in an earlier post. I bought that book and now my addiction is going to get MUCH worse. This book is so cool, it has wonderful descriptions & photos so you are able to tell the difference in many of our passifloras. With this book I was able to determine I also have Passiflora lutea growing wild at my house in MO. DH tells me I have something else growing at a different site in the woods. I'll have to go find it now.

Great book, highly recommended.

I usually soak my Passiflora seeds in OJ for 24 hrs prior to planting.

Council Hill, OK

It all started when I found some Passiflora in my neighbor's field and brought it home. Life has not been the same since. Books, cameras, library, greenhouse? Where will it all end?
Thanks for the Hyperlink, I'll do some quiet research.

Covington, LA(Zone 8b)

I think one of my favorites is P. violacea form 3. Large dark pink buds all along the stem. Frequent heavy bloomer. Beautiful flower. Easy to root cuttings. See photo.

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Canton,IL &Dent Coun, MO(Zone 5b)

Oh wow flicker that is nice!

Houston, PA(Zone 6a)

Flicker, what would it take to get a cutting or some seeds????
Roxanne

Covington, LA(Zone 8b)

This is a hybrid and I have never seen it set fruit. I have no rooted cuttings this year--didn't have the time to do it. How good are you with unrooted cuttings?
Johanna

Canton,IL &Dent Coun, MO(Zone 5b)

pretty darn good...I have belottii and Blue Eyed Susan and a few seeds of other varities if anyone wants to trade...I also have a to of no I.D. rose....it was a weeping tree rose I had to cut back to bring in

noonamah, Australia

An update on the Passiflora ligularis, Sweet Granadilla. Most of the seedlings have died but a couple are still managing to struggle on. They're very small, don't seem to be able to get much growth up.

By the way, I really like that P. violacea.

Houston, PA(Zone 6a)

Flicker, unrooted cuttings would be fine. Would you want postage or a trade?
Roxanne

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