Beginner Gardening: Perennials that are 4 ft tall in zone 5 by now- not shrubs, 1 by cheerpeople

cheerpeople wrote:
I'm looking for more height in the back of my beds.
The tallest thing I have is thalictrum (meadow rue) which is 4 ft tall right now.
What other early height plants do you suggest?

Is Joe Pye weed 4 ft tall now?

Is there a Heliopsis that is 4 ft by now? Mine is H. 'Summer Nights' 3 1/2 ft and has powdery mildew issues by fall so not thinking I'm going to keep it .

My tallest siberian iris is only 3 1/2 ft now as well.

If there are no other options maybe I'll move lilium back there but I prefer them closer to my nose! he he he :)

This picture has nothing to do with my post. I just thought I'd share it. It is Heritage Canyon, Fulton, IL