Insect and Spider Identification: CLOSED: Bumble or Carpenter Bee?, 1 by wallaby1

wallaby1 wrote:
I'm afraid I'm struggling to see where the wing venation can be seen sufficiently to know the difference. Then I'm not an expert on wing venations! I'm sure you know what you are looking at better than me kennedyh.

My last thoughts of Bombus griseocollis were based on the pictures on the Bumble Bees of Illinois website, the male compares very well to the pictures given by linda_nc, one is even on the same flower with a very similar angle. All the clours etc match up perfectly.

I have copied the pics from that site to post here, I put them side by side with the pics above and could see no difference, whereas with the two options given I could not quite match either up with any pics I found.

This pic compares with linda_nc's pic #2