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Efbobby wrote:
This one has stumped the local nurseries. Until I really knew what a persimmons was I thought this was one.

It has the persimmons like evolution of bush to tree as well as making root suckers however the leaves are smooth.

Whatever it is it is vigorous and has a high strike rate.

Key traits: branching is nearly black and when the tree is happier the new growth tips and underside of the leaves are silver.

Only shot in the dark I had was maybe a naturalized Japanese or Texas Persimmons??