Bird Identification: CLOSED: Veery? Hermit Thrush? Or?, 2 by nutsaboutnature

nutsaboutnature wrote:
Hi,
I spotted these birds yesterday and they were so well-camouflaged that I almost missed them. I happened to notice something moving in an area of dried leaves so I attempted to focus my camera on it. I then realized there were quite a few of these birds, but they were darting around so fast, I had trouble getting any decent shots.

Most of the pics are of the same bird. The last shot of two birds is the only one that shows the breast area. I'm also curious if they're both the same species or two different types that hang around together. Or... possibly a male and female of the same type.

Thanks in advance for any help!