Specialty Gardening: Summer ... show you'r pic's #3, 0 by QuoiMerrie

QuoiMerrie wrote:
and Blossombuddy.....we have killer grape vines across the back yard fence that we inherited with the house....we don't try to produce grapes...letting the butterflies and bees do all the pollinating for us.....

Whatever berries/fruits go to the jays and ground rodents...so I'm afraid I'm not much practical help for you there....

I can tell you it's zone 6b.....very full sun....and incredibly ordinary soil...